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Minutes of the regular quarterly meeting of the Board of
Trustees of the University of Kentucky for Tuesday, September
22, 1931.
The Board of Trustees of the University of Kentucky met in
regular quarterly session at the University on Tueiday, Septei-
ber 22, 1931. The following members were present: Judge Rich-
ard 0. Stoll, E. B. Webb, W. W. Wash, Governor Flem D. Sampson,
Louis Hillenmeyer, Jam^es Park, and Robert G. Gordont Meeting
with the Board were Frank L. McVey, President of the University,
and W~ellington Patrick Secretary of the Board.
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Trustees for
June were approved as published. The minutes of the Executive
Co-mmittee for July were approved as published, (No other meet-
ings have been held since the last meeting of the Board in June.)
1. Alumni Election. Nominations for the election of an
Alumni member to the Board of Trustees were received in accordance
with the law, A committee from the Alumni of the University,
consisting of Professor L. K. Frankel, Miss Marguerite McLaughlin,
and Mr. Wayland Rhoads, vwas present aad assisted in tabulating
the ballots. The ballots were opened in accordance with the
regulations and tabulated, and the following persons received
the highest number of votes:
1. E. B. Webb ................ 20
2. Cliff Thompson, Jr. ...... 18
3. Dr. George Wilson ........ 17
4. L. K. Frankel ............ 16
5. I. J. Miller ............. 13
6. W. H. Grady .............. 12
These were on motion declared nominated and the Secretary
was directed to proceed with the election as provided in the
Regulations.
2. Report of the Business Agent. The report of the Bus-
iness Agent was received and ordered incorporated in the Minutes.
The report was as follows:
2.
EXHIBIT "B"
Statement of Income and Expenditures
Month of Augtist, 1931
Previously
Reported
Current
Month
Fiscal
Year
To Date
General Fund Income
Federal Appropriation 42,750.00
State Tax
Interest on Endowment
Bonds 4,322.25
Student Fees 561.60
Student Fees - Sum.Sch. 43,'728.75
Student Fees - U.H.S. 1,870.00
Student Fees - El.Tr.
Sch. 2,280.OO
Student Fees - U. Ext. 2$188.50
Miscellaneous Receipts 2,859.93
Rentals 414.90
IM-ent s Dormitories 1,974.08
Total 102,950.01
Expenditures
Instruction 62,583.88
Ad-m. Exp. & Maintenance 42,220.69
Add. & Betterments 43,478.66
Total 148,283.23
40, 814. 86
774. 55
775. 40
2,266.10
242.62
210.00
539. 25
45,62 278
50,991.08
30,249.42
10,127.24
91 367. 74
Excess of Expenditures
over Income (45 333.22) (45 744.96)
Patterson Hall Income
Miscellaneous Receipts 8.20
Room Rent Sumner School 4,717.25
Total 4,725.45
Expenditures
Expense
1,627.49
1.00
60.50
61. 50
1,752.06
Expense of Inco-me over
Expenditures 31937.96 _ (1,690.56)
42, 750.00
40,814.86
4,322.25
1,336.15
44,504.15
1,870.00
2,280.00
4,454.60
3,102.55
624.90
2,513.33
148 572.79
113 5744.96
72, 470.11
53605 .90
839. 650.97
(91, 078.18L
9.20
4. 777. 75
4, 786.95
3,379.55
1 407.40
General Fund Income
General Fund Expendi-
tures
107,675.46
45,68 41. 28
153,359.74
243.030.52
149,910. 72 93,119. 80
Excess of General Fund Ex-
ditures over Income (42,235.26)
Excess of Receipts over Ex-
penditures for General
Ledger Accounts 8,724. 82
Excess of Expenditures over
Receipts for the fiscal
year to date - General
Fund (33,510.44)
(47,435.26)
46,222.76
(1,21.2.76)
( 89, 670. 78 )
54,947.58
(34,72,3.20)
Excess of Expenditures over
Receipts for the fiscal year
to date - General Fund
Cash in Bank July 1C, 1931 -
General Fuad
Cash in Bank August 31, 1931 -
Gencral Fund
Trust Fund Income
Student Loan Fund 510.76
Student Notes Paid 608. 8.2
Total Receipts 119.58
44.97
236.00
280.97
(34,723.20)
(107,858. 56)
(142,1581. 76)
555.73
844.82
1.400.55
Expenditures
Expense
Student Notes
Total
Excess of Receipts over Ex-
penditures
40.00
205.00
245.00
40.00
180.00
220.00
874. 58 60. 97
Excess of Receipts over Ex-
pcnditures for the fiscal
year to date - Trust Fund
Cash in Bank August 1, 1931 -
Trust Fund
Cash in Bank August 31, 1931 -
Trust Fund
Experiment Station Income
Hatch - Federal Appro.
Milk and Butter - Cash
Receipts
Dairy Cattle Sales
Swine Sales
Poultry Sales
Farm Produce Sales
Horticultural Sales
3,750.00
1,068.96
9". 00
269. 98
121. 09
102. 15
979. 40
42.00
148.80
82. 12
92. 30
80.00
385.00
465.00
935.55
935.55
1.417.G4
2 353.19
3,750.00
2,048.36
42.00
92.00
418.78
2.03. 21
194.45
4.
Rentals
Miscellaneous
Fertilizer - Fees
Public Service - Misc.
Feeding Stuffs - Fees
Adams - Federal Appro.
Serum - Sales
Serum - Virus Sales
Serum - Supply Sales
Creamery - License Fees
Creamery - Testers' Lic.
Creamery - Glassware Test-
137.67
730. 03
166. 25
35. 00
3,164.80
3, 750.00
86. 40
3.60
3.15
5,198.00
1,308.00
ed 44.33
Purnell - Federal Appro. 15,000.00
State Appro. - Patterson
Farm Purchase 25,000.00
Nursery Inspection - Fees 135.00
Nursery Inspection - State
Appro.
Poultry Improvement 730.00
Creamn Grading
Blood Test 78.75
129. 67
21.15
1,462.50
3.60
3,012.95
108. 30
6.55
18. 60
156.00
166. 00
44.21
200. 00
145. 33
1,300.00
166.50
Total
Expenditures
Expense
Additions and Betterments
Total
53, 006.90
36. 41
53-2-043.31
30, 441.33
278. 31
30, 719.64
267.34
751.18
1,628.75
38. 60
6,177.75
3,750.00
194. 70
10.15
21. 75
5,354.00
1, 474.00
88.54
15 000. 00
25,000.00
335.00
145. 33
730.00
1,300.00
245. 25
69,261.14
83,448.23
314. 72
83,862.95
Excess of Expenditures over
Income
7,931.85 (22, 433e.66)
1930-1931 Accounts Payable
Liquidated during Current
Year (7,146.00)
Excess of Expenditures over
Receipts 785.85
Excess of Expenditures over
Receipts for the fiscal
year to date - Experiment
Station
Cash in Bank August 1, 1931 -
Experiment Station
Cash in Bank August 31, 1931 -
Experiment Station
Extension Division Income
Federal Smith-Lever
Federal Add. Co-op.
Federal Supplementary
Federal Capper-Ketcham
Urban Garden Funds
74,155.27
15 500.00
26,545.87
18,400.59
1,250.00
(3.992.85)
(26,426.51)
(14,501.81)
(11,138.85)
(25,640.66)
(25,640.66)
60,174.95
34,534.29
74,155.27
15,500.00
26,545.87
18,400.59
1,250.00
82285. 98
County and Other
Total
Expenditures
Expense
Excess of Income over Ex-
penditures
5.
216.75
136. 068. 48
32, 345. 49
124.85 341.60
124.85 136, 193.33
36,377.83 68,723.32
(36, 252.98) 67,470. 01
Excess of Income over Ex-
penditures for the fiscal
year to date - Experiment
Station
Cash in Bank July 1, 1931 -
Extension Division
Cash in Bank August 31, 31931 -
Extension Division
67, 470.01
6,905.79
74,375.80
Sumiary
General Fund Income 107, 675. 46
Trust Fund Income 510.76
Experiment Station Income 60, 975.16
Extension Division Income 136 068.48
Total
General Fund Expendi-
tures 149,910.72
Trust Fund Expenditures 40.00
Experiment Station Income 53,043.31
Extension Division Income 32,345.49
Total 235 5
Excess of Expenditures over
Income 69,890.34
1930-1931 Accounts Payable
Liquidated during the
Current Year (7,146.00
Excess of Receipts over
Expenditures for General
Ledger accounts 8,724.82
Student Loan Fund - notes 403.82
Excess of Receipts over
Expenditurcs for the
fiscal year to date -
Co-mbined Fund 71, 72.98
Excess of Receipts over
Expenditures for the
fiscal year to date -
Combined Fund
Cash in Bank and on hand
July 1, 1931 - Combined Fund
Cash in Bank and oln hand
August 31, 1931 Combined Fund
45, 684.28
44.97
8, 285.98
124 85
54.14:0.08
93., 119. 80
40.00
30, 719.64
36. 377.83
160 257.27
153, 359.74
555.73
69, 261.14
136,193.33
359 369.94
243, 030.52
80.00
83, 762.95
68. 723. 32
395,596. 79
(106,117.19) (36,226.85)
))
(3, 992.85)
46,222.76
56. 00
63, 3831 .28
(11,138.85)
54, 947.58
459.82
8,041.70
8,041.70
(37,360.18)
( 29318.48)
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103. 7'2. z,,-j
L U 0j -I-,
S.
Abstract of item shown on statement
of Income and Expenditures as "Excoss
of Receipts over Expenditures for Gon-
cral Ledger Accounts $54,947.58".
Debit Credit
Accounts Receivable 32,524.19
Insurance Paid in Advance 658.93
Sundry Accounts 6,917.68
Notes Payable 30.000.00
7,576.61 62,524.19
7,576.61
54,94-7.58
3. Annual Audit of University Accounts. The report of the
annual audit of the accounts of the University was received from
the auditors, Marwick, L.itchcll, Peat and Company, and presented
to the Board for consideration. After an examination of the
report, a motion was made, seconded, and carried that the report
be prepared for distribution to the members of the Board for con-
sideration.
4. Budget Requcst from the Legislature, The matter of a
request from the Legislature for the biennial budget was present-
ed by President McVey; and a motion was made, seconded and car-
ried that its development be referred to the Executive Committee
with the request that it prepare a budget for the University of
Kentucky to be presented in the form of a request for funds to
the State Legislature and that the Board of Trustees be informed
of the action of the Executive Committee.
5. Sale of State Warrants. The Business Agent reported that
he had on hand State warrants approximating $109,000 and that it
would probably be necessary to sell some of these warrants about
the first of October. He asked authority to sell them at such
a time as may be necessary at the prevailing market price at the
time of sale. A motion was seconded anld carried authorizing the
sale.
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6. Quarterly Report of the President. President MoVey -made
his quarterly report to the Board of Trustees of the University.
The report was as follows:
As I view the situation at the University the turning-point
has been reached in its history, Every year brings something
new and there are constant changes and modifications in the con-
ditions and problems facing the institution. but it seems to me
that this year there is to be an undoubted and definite change
in the general situation. This statement is based upon three
points: first, the completion of the building program, more or
less definite, that has been going on for the last half dozen
yearso The second is t o be found in the increasing emphasis on
graduate work and the enlarging number of students coming to the
University for work on advanced degrees. The third point is to
be found in the probable change in the income of the University.
In the past half dozen years the University has completed
buildings that aggregate $2,100,000.00. This sum does not in-
clude the stadium, nor the gymnasium erected by the alumni, nor
does it include Bradley Hall, for which appropriation was made
in 1920. Toward these expenditures appropriations were made
of approximately $550,000. Gifts amounted to $225,)000, amorti-
zation projects $270,000, and the balance. to sanvings in income
over the last six years, amounted to $937,000. Resulting from
this activity, the University now has a group of buildings that
would be a credit to any institution in the land, though it also
possesses a number of old buildings that never were adequate
for their purposes, even at the time of their construction. All
of these expenditures and their upkeep have been taken care of
with the exception of a debt which now aamounts to $100,000. Slow
assets now on the books, if they were not allowed, would increase
this amount by $125,000. This progress in building has been
due to a definite income receivable from the State and the in-
creasing funds that have come from the inheritance tax law.
Other State departments have run behind in their r-c-ipts b-caz.x'
the State is overspending its income. As a result, there is a
considerable floating state debt.
This is a matter of anxiety to a number of people, and it
is now proposed to place the State on a strict budgetary system
with all taxes paid directly to the State treasury and re-appro-
priated by the State legislature. Much is to be said of this
viewpoint, but 'that it will cure all difficulties is undoubtedly
an over-estimate of the probablec results that will come from such
a budget system. It may be worthwhile to look over a memorandum
that I drew up this summer regarding a budget plan for Kentucky.
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HEMORAND-LU4
I. A budget is a device that has some advantages but it
will never curs political situations and stop the
working of a political system such as we have in Ken-
tucky.
II. The Legislature knows very definitely what it has to
spend but this does not prevent its overspending. Log
rolling, trading and the like result in the passage
of money bills regardless of a budget system.
III. No budget system will work acceptably as long as there
is a fixed tax. A budget system calls for an orderly
statement of expenditures, then the fixing of the tax
for the purpose of meeting the budget. Assignment of
moneys to this and that by a budget officer results in
pulling and hauling and grants on the basis of political
power.
IV. Income has been assigned to the educational institutions
so they may know what they can do. It is a protection
against political maneuver and reprisal. The amount
assigned to educational institutions is 5 per cent or
less of the income of the State,
V. The Legislature is the place to begin the work. A mere
budget system will not check over-appropriation. The
governors have always had to veto but they are in measure
checked by the political situation. The problem involved
is far deeper than a budget system.
VI. Every legislature knows what departments and institutions
have and what they spend. The budget commission collects
all this information and it is placed before every legis-
lature. A budget placing institutions on a biennial ba-
sis with no certainty of income will be unwise and hazard-
ous. They should know what they can have and be able to
count on it.
The inheritance tax which is collected by the State of Ken-
tucky has been used since its passage for constructive purposes
To take funds collected from estates for current expenses is a
questionable procedure, but to use such funds for educational
purposes is a capital investment from the point of view of the
State.
I have had a number of letters from the presidents of the
teachers' colleges in the State asking what the University was
going to do about the estate of M1r. William Monroo Wright, who
died in August of this year. Various estimates have been placed
upon this estate from sixty millions down. Undoubtedly, many
of the estimates are too great, but it would seem advisable from
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the viewpoint of the University and. the teachers' colleges to
have the matter looked after by legal counsel for the University
so the Board of Trustees may know what procedure is being follow-
ed in the collection of this tax. Whatever the amount of tax,
it would be doubly welcome this year considering the lowering
of receipts from other sources.
Another point in the changing situation in the University
is to be found in the increasing dea.-nd for graduate work. This
growth in graduate work has shown in the registration, which
reached 900 including the summer session. The number of candi-
dates for the masterT's degree and Ph.D. degree, also, has grown.
This is as it should be, but the University can not hold its
place as a graduate school unless it maintains a high efficiency
in staff and provides the necessary laboratory and library facil-
ities. Such demands mean greater expenditures and the University
should furnish meay additional books in the fields of political
science, history, economics and literature. In the fields of
the extension departments, the agricultural extension and uni-
versity extension have been called upon for additional services.
The Department of University Extension is now asked to do a great
deal of work and the emphasis is placed not so much on corres-
pondence studies as upon extension classes. The agricultural
extension,which had heavy work placed upon it as a result of the
drouth of last year and the work which it did in cooperation
with the Red Cross, was of the very highest order. This year
it has been engaged in heartening the farmers and ha3 placed
new emphasis upon a more self-sufficient agriculture. In addi-
tion to these demands, the various bureaus have been called upon
to help State departments an-d colleges in their work. This ap-
plies not only to the departments in the fields like economics,
but goes even to the Department of Buildings and Grounds in
giving assistance to colleges and institutions in plans for heat-
ing, water, and the like.
The student body last year rcaeched the highest figure in
the history of the University. The total number registered on
October 10 last year was 3204. The registration this year on
September 19 was 3010 as against 3027 on the same date last year.
The number of freshmen entering this year was somewhat smaller
than that of last year, due to the policy of refusing to admit
from high schools in other states students who are not in the up-
per two-thirds of their class, as well a.s students from other
colleges who have made poor records in those institutions. The
curve of student growth is astonishing. It shows that in a
period of ten years the attendance at the University has in-
crcased 224dI. Consequently, this progress calls for increased
equipment, additional buildings and additional grounds space.
It is difficult at the prescnt time to find space for University
purpoSeS. This raises the question of the legislative program
at the next session. The situation economically and politica1l-
ly does not secmi propitious. YIevertheless, the progrqan should
be drawn up as soon as possible. In order to assist in doing
this I arm calling tV-.jc ttcntion to the noed of a building for the
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College of Enginea ing, the desperate need of the biological
sciences for a large laboratory building, the needs of the De-
partment of Home Economics, which is housed in a building never
adapted to their purposes, a building for the activities of the
R. 0. T. C., a dormitory for women and a building to take care
of student activities. Those axe the needs of the University.
In this list I have not placed a central heating plant, nor an
administration building, nor a building for the Department of
Physics. All of these things are very much needed and it is
desirable to bring as clearly as possible to the members of the
Legislature the needs of the University.
There should be a considerable sum of money devoted to the
Department of Grounds of the University. The campus looks bet-
ter than it has for some time, but it is desirable to provide
planting around some of the buildings, to put in permanent walks
and to prune and treat the trees, which are rapidly deteriorating.
The University is askad now and then to lend its good of-
fices to some cause of' to undertake work of investigation of so-
cial and economic conditions. The unsolicited request of the
C. & 0. Railway Company to carry on tests of coal at the Universi-
ty of Kentucky is a real conpliment. The railway company pro-
vides the funds and the coal and the University selects the staff
and supervises the work under the direction of a combined com-
mittoo composed of representatives of the railway company and
the University. This work was begun July first and is now ad-
vanced to the point where the tests may begin. It required an
arrangement of space and the purchase of equipment before the
tests could be undertaken. The value of the experiment to the
railway company will depend upon the thoroughness with which it
is done. It is expected that the University will do an excellent
piece of work and. provide the information sought by the railway
company.
The fact that the University is asked to do work of this
kind points to its need of an Engineering Experim.-ent Station.
Some thirty of the state universities have such stations, but
we have never bect able to create one here because of the lack
of funds. The use of money for such purposes will be of advant
tago to the State in many ways, particularly in pointing out what
can be done with our resources.
The White House Conforence on Child Welfare was held in
Washington last yorr. This conference worked through committees
that attempted to got at the facts concerning child welfare in
the United States. An amazing apount of material was gathered
by the co-mmittee and. in time its fineings will be published.
The purpose of the conforenco was to stimulate the states to car-
ry on this work after the material had boon gatlhered. With that
end in mind the Kentucky Confercace wa.n forned waith the purpose
of getting at the facts and int-ce-sting the people in the results
that came out of the conference. Profossor Nofocier of Asbury
College, was appointed general chainr-man and director of t he
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State conference. Ho has spent a good deal of time and money
in organizing the work and now finds that it is difficult to
carry it on. He asks that the University undertake it by put-
ting its organization behind it. Without doubt there is a good
cause here, but the cost of projecting such a piece of work
would be considerable. Still the University might think serious-
ly of assisting in a real child welfare progres in Kentucky.
The new library which was completed this spring and occupied
by the University in June is to be dedicated on October 23. Dr.
John H. Finley of the New York Times, has been asked to deliver
the address on that occasion. He has consented to do this and
the coummittee on arrangements is now7 preparing the program and
expects to sund invitations to all those interested, both in the
State and outside. I hope that on that occasion members of the
Board of Trustees will be present and add to the impressiveness
of the dedication exercises by giving their sanction and apptov-
al. The year just closing has been an important one in the
history of the University and the Board of Trustees have given
generously of their time and ability. The progress of the Uni-
versity has been due to the affection, interest and intelligence
of the board in directing its affairs.
One thing more before I close this report. On the books
of the University are a number of items carried as assets, which
to say the least, are slow in action. These items include
sums loaned to the Memorial fund, the stadium fund and also to
the construction of the gymnasium and advances made on the Memo-
rial Hall. The amount involved in these enterprises and now
owing to the University is $122,223.87. It would be a great
relief to the University for the Alumni Association to undertake
to clear this indebtedness. The executive committee of the as-
sociation should give this matter some thought, but the time has
not seemed opportune and no progress hae..:been made in an effort
to take care of the matter.
in closing, I want to thank Govornor Sampson, who has at-
tended meetings of the board but two, since he has been Governor
of the State. His interest has been manifested many times.
During his administration the University has made progress and
been free from any attempts at political control.
7. Appointment of Committee to Study Problems of Higher
Education in the State. At a previous meeting of the Board,
the President of the University was requested to call a conference
to study higher education in the state. President McVey report-
ed that the chairman of the Kentucky Education Association had
appointed a committee for this purpose and that the committee is
to meat on the 30th of September for a discussion of various prob-
lems.
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8. Appointment of Atto neM-. Or. J. Pelham Johnston was on
motion, duly made and secondedh appointed ai attorney for the
University to represent its interest in the settlement of the
Wright estate.
9. Legislative Program. The question of a legislative pro-
gram for the University 'was discussed by the Governor and the va-
rious members of the Board of Trustoces The matter was re-
ferred to the Executive Committoe with the request that a program
be developed and reported to the Board of Trustees.
10. Extension Education for Negro People. The following re-
port was made by Wellington Patrick, Director of University Ex-
tension, to the President of the University, which in turn was
presented to the Board of Trustees for discussion:
September 21, 1931
Memorandum for the Board of Trustees, University of Kentucky,
for consideration at its regular quarterly meeting on September
22, 1931.
The following brief of the discussion regarding the propos-
al to admit Negro teachers of the State of Kentucky to University
Extension courses is submitted for the consideration of the
Board. This brief has been prpaTred at the request of the Ex-
ecutive Committee at its last -mecting. The following appear to
be the essential points involved in the matter..
(1) On May 13, 1931, President R. B. Atwood of the Kentucky
State Industrial College, Frankfort, Kentucky, in a letter to
President McVey quoted the action of the Board of that Institu-
tion asking the University of Kentucky as a temporary measure to
admit Negro teachers in the Stato of Kentucky to extension
courses. A copy of that letter is attached, *marked Exhibit A.
(2) On July 6, 1931, Mr. L. N. Tlaylor, State Supervisor of
Negro Education for Kentucky, submitted a brief digest of the
laws and supreme court decisions affecting Negro education of
the State. This document, together with President Atwoodis
letter were submitted to the Executive Cormittee at its July
meeting. A copy of Mr. Taylor's letter, marked Exhibit B) is
attached. to this memorandum.
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(3) On May 28, 1931, Dr. Henry H. Hill, City Superi.ntendent
of Schools of the City of Lexington, submitted a request endors-
ing the proposal. A copy of Dr. Hill's letter is attached,
marked Mxhibit C.
(4) Similar communications have come from other interested
persons, among which is a communication from W. H. Fouse, Prin-
cipal of Dunbar High School, Lexington, Kentucky. A copy of
that communication is attached marked Exhibit D.
(5) From time to time during the last ten or twelve years,
various requests have come from Negro persons in the State ask-
ing the privilege of taking correspondence courses.
(6) At the July meeting of the Executive CoLmmittee these
proposals were presented, and the matter taken under advisement.
Wellington Patrick, Director of University-Extension, was re-
quested by President McVey at that meeting to prepare a brief
of the matter and rbut the discussion in form for consideration
at the September mceting of the Board. The following discussion
of the matter is, therefore, presented for consideration of the
Board.
(a) It appears that the Negro teachers of. the State of Ken-
tucky arc required by law to meet higher standards and need the
facilities of correspondence courses mid extension classes;
such as arc provided for white teachlecrs in order that they may
further their education and imect legal requircmcnts rapidly be-
ing demanded by certification laws. Their salaries are being
held back considerably, owing to the fact that they have no pro-
gram of training while in service.
(b) It appears that the institutions for the training of
Negro teachers in the Stato of Kentucky arc at present absorbed
in establishing themselves to do satisfactory residence work
and that they have not the staff or the facilities at present to
moet the demands for giving extension instruction to Negroes.
(c) The statement of the Supervisor of Negro Education in
Kentucky, Mr. L. N. Taylor, who for years has been a student of
the school laws of the State and the various decisions of at-
torneys general and of the supreCme court, bears out the viewpoint
that there is no law on the statute books which would prevent the
University of Kentucky from offering this service as a temporary
Measure.
(d) The giving of extension courses for colored persons is
carried on in several southern states. Something is being done
in Florida, Arka-nsas, and a few othcr southern states in the way
of mrking available extension instruction for NTegro persons.
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Separate instruction, of course, is given; and white teachers
and Negro teachers axe not taught together. Of course, north-
ern universities are making available their correspondence
courses and extension courses to Negro teachers without any dis-
crimination.
(6) The statutes of Kentucky contain some references to the
question of the mixing of Negroes and Whites in classrooms; but
so far as I am able to determine, the law which was passed some
twenty years ago was for the solution of a particular problem;
namely, to prevent instruction of white and colored persons in
mixed groups. The law was designed specifically to remove col-
ored students from Berea College. That law, of course, had no
reference to extension instruction as it exists today; because
such instruction did not exist in Kentucky at that time.
(f) The institutions for the education of Negro teachers
in this State at present are not organized in such a way as to
give an effective program of such instruction. However, the
problem has been solved in the City of Louisville, where the
University of Louisville has taken over and operates an institu-
tion for Colored teachers as a branch of the municipal University
of Louisville.
(g) The only point involved seems to be the social effect
on the popular mind. Would the people of the State of Kentucky
object to the University of Kentucky's offering extension in-
struction to the Negro population of the State? Since the mat-
ter seems to be in process of solution in several southern
states withbut social.weaction, it would scorm that there would
be no problem arising in this respect,- especially if the instruc-
tion is to be given separately and if it is not contemplated to
mix white and colored persons for purposes of instruction.
(h) Extension courses at the University of Kentucky as they
have existed for the last thirteen years ha