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Monday Evening, Jaii. 27,

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UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY, LEXINGTON

Vol. LX, No. 82

Conservative Men
Hold The Power
On Trustee Board

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By DANA EWELL
Assistant Managing Editor
In response to growing attention being focused on college and
university trustees across the country, the Educational Testing
Service has conducted a survey of some 5,000 trustees, drawing
a rather conservative picture of the men at the helm of power in
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America's higher education system.
UK's trustees, most of whom
answered the eight-pag- e
quesrepresentative can be found to
tionnaire, fit the conservative speak for all students.
mold willing to listen to faculty
Dr. Nicholas Nicholas Nichoand student opinion on certain las, an Owensboro dentist who is
issues but completely opposed to serving his first term as a trustee,
giving faculty and student reprerecognizes a lack of communicasentatives on the Board of Trust- - tion between faculty and stuees a vote in the actual deci- - dents and the board. He believes
sion.
that all phases of student opinion
Members of the art faculty gathered yesterday afternoon for a
This is the present faculty-studeshould be heard, "even the acsituation on the UK tivists," but he seemed unsure
reception at the faculty showing in the Fine Arts Gallery. From
left to right above are: Pat Hull; an unidentified spectator, James
board:
when questioned about giving
Suzuki; Stan Mock; Trond Sandvik; Cliff Amyx; Marion Winsryg;
Faculty representatives Robert students and faculty voting power
Rudd of agricultural economics on the board.
John Tuska; Terence Johnson and Ay-The work in the foreOn the basis of the nationground is a wood construction by Terence Johnson. The painting and Paul Oberst of law, and
wide survey, which canvassed
behind the faculty is by James Suzuki. The show closes next Wally Bryan, Student Governkernel Photo by Howard Mason' ment president and student trusttrustees of more than 500 colSunday.
ee, are allowed a forum for their leges and universities, Rodney
opinions at both the private and T. Hartnett, director of the study,
public meetings of the board. wrote:
But they are not allowed to vote
"We might expect greater conon actual decisions.
flict and disruption of the academic program, a deeper enConsultants
trenchment of the ideas of comDr. Harry Denham, a Mays-vill- e
peting factions, and, worst of
surgeon in his third term all, an aimless, confusing colhis concept of God."
in your beliefs that you forget as trustee, explained to the Kerwhere the stulegiate
Jordan explained that Jesus what Christianity is all about." nel his reason for wanting to dents' experience,is a result of
program
is ideally the "role model" of
deny faculty and student trustees
"Institutionalized religion is their vote: "They are not in an arbitration rather than mutual
"A role model is
Christianity.
determination of goals."
a position or person we try to reactionary, and retards change, objective position to vote on isFavor 'Double Jeopardy'
sues which closely affect them.
emulate," he said. "If Jesus is and one of the most fundamental
features of life is that it is However, because of their closethe role model, then Christians
Nearly half the trustees reshould be more radical."
constantly changing," he said. ness to the situation they should sponding to the survey said stu"Therefore, to be a Christian be consulted."
dents punished by the authorities
Warns Audience
demands an anarchy a constant
Dr. Denham believes student for acts of civil disobedience also
He warned his audience not attempt to keep from being
should be disciplined by the
opinions should be considered,
to "become so institutionalized
but he is rather skeptical that one
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'Christianity Has To Be Radical,'
Jordan Tells Students At BSU
ELLEN ESSIG
Kernel Staff Writer
"If Christianity is to be relevant to today it has to be radical," Dr. Leonard Jordan, sociology professor, told an audience
of about 40 at the Baptist Student
Union Friday night.
"Jesus himself was a radical,"
Jordan continued. "He refused to
belong to any church or abide
by any government. He lived by
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Tour With The Construction Super

Campus9 Largest Structure Thrusts Skyward

By JOE HINDS
Kernel Staff Writer
Omigod!
The wind swept my hair straight up.
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Stoll Field, now below me, looked like a
baby cradle. The upper portion of my
body was hanging over the top of the
office building under construction
19-flo-

at UK.

I was a little sick when I turned
back to Jim Davis, the field superintendent
for Foster and Creighton Construction
Co., and asked if any of his workmen ventured over the side.
y
stated,
"Yeah," he
if they were afraid of heights they
"But
wouldn't have stayed with construction."
He scratched one of his long sideburns.
men can get
"It's not so bad, though-t- he
accustomed to the different levels as the
building progresses."
The Harrodsburg native tugged at his
silver construction helmet and surveyed
the surrounding countryside. I had met
him ten minutes earlier on the ground
matter-of-factl-

floor.
Peanut-Butte-

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Mud

I was trying to find theoffice-classrooconstruction supervisor. I had struggled
mud to
through the creamy peanut-butte- r
reach an area resembling crunchy peanut butter. Workmen dressed in overJeans passed by
alls and
why I was wearing a yellow
wondering
sweater in the bog where sand piles
were melting into mud. I wandered into
a small building where a lift operator
was working.loose-fittin- g

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I asked if the lift operator could contact the field supervisor for me. The man
who was manipulating the levers that
cranked a lift up 19 stories smiled and
button.
pushed a walkie-talki- e
"Jim Davis. Calling Jim Davis."
"Yeah," the reply came, but not from
the transmitter. Outside the small wooden
door stood a man with piercing eyes and

a thick blue jacket.
"Oh, Jim. There you are. This genAnd off we went into the
tleman
office building.
On the ground floor, Davis stopped
and talked with the
inspector. "The lights will shine on
each side of the partition."
My mind wandered as they talked:
The $12.7 million structure due to be
completed next semester has a complex
electrical system. Lecture rooms will have
speaker systems, an educational television
hookup will permit direct transmission to
community colleges, and projection facilities are being built.
The mechanical inspector said, "I think
it goes to the floor. Let me know, will
you?"
The supervisor clapped him on the
shoulder, "Yeah. I will."
We walked down a dark corridor. I
noticed that everything seemed to be supported by a mass of concrete. I was informed that more concrete was used in
the office building and with its adjoinclassroom building than
ing
was poured in both high rise towers in
the Blanding-Kirwadormitory complex.

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We stepped into a wooden elevator
bulb. My shadow
lighted by a
danced on a plank as we started up.
"The boys are waiting for me on the east
end. Let me off on 12' Davis was busy
telling the men on the elevator what
he wanted them to do next.
The office structure will house 1,050
members and administrators
faculty-staf- f
and the classroom section will seat
nearly 4,000 students (In 1945, this
structure would have accommodated all the students and faculty at
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UK).

Davis turned to me and said, "We
have temporary heating from the 11th
floor down." The electric service units
that were being installed will heat and
air condition the entire structure through
a circulating water system.
We eased to a halt at the 12th floor
and got out. It was lighter and I could
notice the individual craft man ship of one
worker who was carefully puttying small
cracks in his work. We went up several
flights by a temporary stairway.
In the background, walkie-talkie- s
were
mechanically hammering out directions,
buckets hit the ground and bounced,
machines were whirring and sputtering.
"Check the back part of the wall," Davis
ordered. He leaned over a blueprint with
cigarette smoke forming a fringe.
"That should be the back of the
curve, but it looks awfully dose." The
technician puffed at his cigarette and
then tossed it aside. He had work to do
and Davis told him how to do it.
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We walked up to the 19th
floor. "This is where all the
mechanical
equipment
units, electrical transformers, and the like has to
be assembled," he told me. I
noticed large stacks of sheet metal
that circled the area. They had
to be assembled.
lie looked at me and smiled,
"Now, Joe, you wanta go up
on top?"
So up we went. The first
step was to climb a wooden
ladder that shifted from side to
side as I climbed. "This is the

penthouse."

the top floor of the
building would contain
lounge areas and conference
rooms, one of which would be
used as a board room; but what
I didn't know was that the view
would be so spectacular. Lexington and the surrounding
area spread out below me.
Still Decorated
I noticed that the Christmas
decorations were still at the top
of the structure. I had seen them
before, but now the lighted tree
was only yards away.
I knew

high-ris- e

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service In the basement and a
utility supply center
and the tree."
Tallest Man
and bought lights
We waded through puddles of
"Hey, there's the tallest man
muddy water and started back on the Job." The supervisor was
down.
to a man on stilts meWe walked down several pointing
chanically clomping down the
flights of stairs. The classroom hall. The painter turned around
building will be one of the largest and smiled.
of its kind in the United States,
We walked down to the first
containing six lecture rooms, 75 floor. "I put a lot of miles in
six ingeneral classrooms and
walking up and down these
struction labs.
stairs," Davis commented. "!t
As we walked into a large reminds me of
walking around the
room, a sudden blast of heat Washington Monument."
hit me. The quiet made me wonOutside, I looked up. I could
der about the offices that would see the crane
peeping over the
be included in the building.
top. It seemed like a long way
A handout provided the inforbut maybe a longer way down.
mation: "Tentative plans call up
for the following divisions to be
admislocated in the high-rissions and registrar, university
housing; graduate admissions;
counseling and testing; placement; residence hall programing; dean of students; department
of student programs; student affairs and planning; administrative offices of the College of Arts
A UK law school senior was
and Sciences; and eight academic arrested Saturday by Lexington
departments. The classroom secdetectives, and charged with mation would include: a new Unilicious shooting and wounding,
versity Post Office, stenographic
after his wife was shot in the
back.
The student, Wendell Vencill
Lyon Jr., 24, of 1514 Delmont
Drive, refused to make a statement to police, according to Detective Sgt. Frank Fryman. He
was released on his own recognizance by Judge Walter Tackett.
Lyon's wifejanewas admitted
to St. Joseph Hospital in critical condition.
Lyon will appear in Police
Court today.

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with packaging
and working
and automotive applications
So when I go in

I've got my Interview set
between computer lab and econ
hurry up bus
I'll be late for class
wonder if Alcoa's doing anything
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* THE KENTUCKY KERNEL, Monday, Jan. 27, 19C- 0-

Negro Employment Patterns
Undergoing Analysis Here
By KATHY ARNOLD

under the direction of Prof. Ray areas of 13 Southern states.
Marshall.
Marshall, an economics pror
The
study, being fessor who has participated in
conducted for the U.S. Depart- similar studies, said the object
ment of Labor, will concentrate of the investigation is to "try
on industries in metropolitan to analyze patterns of Negro
employment in the South" with
the use of computers and personnel, and to determine "where
or
Negroes are
Lexington Peace Council members met last night in the Student
in Southern inCenter, to harass a student dedicated to peace.
dustry."
ses
it was only a
After the patterns are found
The questioning continued: and explained, Marshall said,
sion, though, with members play
ing the part of a local draft "Can you conceive of a situa- the research team will "analyze
Recomboard, and David Collins, the tion in which you would take remedial programs."
student presenting hiscasebefore up arms for your country?"
mendations will be made to
the board, portraying himself.
federal, state, local and private
"No, I can't."
Six "members" of a local draft
'What about World War II?" agencies concerning improving
board sat silently around a table.
Negro employment.
"My taking a life can't be
Collins spoke slowly "I would
The study, already a year
not be a noncombatant. The mis- Justified."
old, will involve about 96 in"Never?" the Chairman dustries, all
sion of Jesus was to teach men
employing 100 perqueried. "What about an invahow to live and not die. He
sons or more and will investision?"
of intaught the essential divinity of
"Well maybe as protection by gate every major category emall men. I must obey my refederal
dustry, including
contributing to an underground."
ligious beliefs
ployment, according to Marshall.
One of the "members" asked,
States involved in the study
"Well, why won't you drive
"Would you be a medic?"
are Alabama, Arkansas, Florida,
a damn supply truck in Viet"I would hope to get a posi- nam?"
Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana,
tion in a hospital and serve ci"There can be a nonviolent Mississippi, North Carolina, Okvilians." The University student underground."
lahoma, South Carolina, Tennessaid he wouldn't be a medic
and Virginia.
One "member" snarled, "Isn't see, Texas
because it would be helping men
Louisville industries will be
to regain their killing capacity. there some psychiatrist we can subject to investigation as will be
Another "member" inter- recommend him to?"
general employment statistics
One of the other members refrom all of Kentucky.
rupted: "I have a business apBesides Louisville,' the repointment. .Let's hurry and get torted, "Yeah. General .Hershey ;
would be a good one.'?
this over with.":
search team will concentrate on
the metropolitan areas of Atlanta,
Miami, Houston, New Orleans
Kernel Staff Writer
Patterns and problems ofNe-gremployment in the Southern
states are being studied by the
University Research Foundation
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Student Press Office Burns

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WASHINGTON (CPS) -- Firemen blame arson for two fires which
damaged offices of the United States Student Press Association
(USSPA) here Jan. 15 and temporary suspended operations of the
organization's College Press Service (CPS).
Firemen answered two alarms college newspapers across the
.
at'Jhe offices, the:first at 2 a.m: country.
and the second four hours later.
Police have made no arrests.
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consumed in the two blazes, and
the building's stairs and halls
were blackened and charred, but
little equipment was damaged.

The research team, financed
by the Labor Department's Manpower Research Program and the
Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission, included approximately 30 persons, Marshall said.

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Editorials represent the opinions of the Editors, not of the University.
Lee B. Becker,

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Purdue Bound
The resignation of Dr. Jacob H. Adler as chairman of the English
Department marks the end of a long and distinguished UK career.
Dr. Adler, who first taught here 20 years ago, will leave at the end of
the spring term to head the EngUsh program at Purdue University.
Purdue had every reason to look toward Lexington in its search
for a man who could develop a first-rat- e
English Department. During
term as chairman here, Dr. Adler has set the English
his five-yeprogram on a course of clear progress: the scope of graduate studies
was much enlarged, the number and quality of faculty publications
were much increased and the department itself came to have a name
of genuine national significance.
In moving to Purdue by tradition an "engineering school" Dr.
Adler will leave old challenges, old successes and old friends in order
to encounter new ones. We wish him well, but it is somehow good
to know that he has said he will miss the University. The University
assuredly will miss Dr. Adler.
ar

Sidewalks, Not Fences
Students living on fraternity row and in the Complex are worried
about the possibility of a fence being built around Haggin Field to
k
shortcut to classes.
prevent them from taking a
We feel the Complex and other outlying facilities in the area are
already far enough removed from the main campus without making
students walk even further. If the University is all that concerned
about the appearance of Haggin Field, why not instead build that
sidewalk suggested by Complex Government?
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To the Editor of the Kernel:
The show was oyer, but the disgust
lingered on. The Supremes, black people,
invoking the name of Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr., had said "There's a place for us,"
for all of us. This hardly ignoble gesture
was greeted by a sorry reaction from the
less than enlightened element of the crowd
Thankfully, this segment seemed to be very
small. That's encouraging. But it makes
one wonder how Jong it will be before
such a disgraceful display is but a bitter
memory and not a living, killing, reality.
One can only say to such prophets of hate,
go ahead and wave your confederate
flags while at the same time being devoid
of any of the decency of the real South,
go ahead and dmnkenly screech Dixie
no matter who it hurts (no, Dixie is not
racist, per se, but ask a Jewish person
how he feels about a swastika which
isn't so bad, per se, either), go ahead,
blindly, but don't ask why when all
hell breaks loose. Let's hope it won't.
F. Charles Cillihan
Law Student

M-.- n,

law-maki-

To the Editor of the Kernel:
In Mr. Bice's Tuesday article concerning the exodus of young Americans to
Canada, you refer to them as "draft
dodgers" and "draft resisters." I fail
to see how fleeing the country constitutes

"resistance."

Robert Martin
Engineering Junior

To the Editor of the Kernel:
As a Berea College aJurnnuSj-- disagree
completely with your analysis of the
student newspaper situation at Berea. Not
that it is any of the Kernel" business, but
did it ever occur to you that the Pinnacle
was a bad newspaper, perhaps bad even in
the sense of your own definition of "bad?
I myself was once libeled by that litde
g
sheet. What makes you think
that the Pinnacle has been, or ever was,
To the Editor of the Kernel:
a "responsible" newspaper?. And I'm no
I would like to make an addition to
g
fanatic; in . fact, .the Berea
the editorial (Spirit of Dixie), carried College student body probably sits politiin the January 22 issue of the Kernel. cally considerably to the left of UK's.
The editorial spoke of the "idiotic bigotry" In my opinion, this action of making the
displayed by "portions of the UK au- Pinnacle pay its own way is one of the
dience" when "Diana Boss . . . called few "enlightened" actions of the Berea
for racial harmony based on the principles Cabinet. Up until about ten years ago the
for which Dr. Martin Luther King died." Pinnacle survived by subscriptions and
Such rudeness by the Whites should, donations, even in little Berea; believe it
no doubt, be denounced but shall we or not.
overtook the rude demonstration that was
Please don't panic; it can't happen
displayed by some Blacks in the audience? here. The Kernel is too good a newspaper
Miss Boss spoke of equality and peace, for that to happen. With proper consideranot Black Power. A clenched fist is not tion for the interests of your readers,
the symbol of unity and equality of all it never will happen. The press can be
men, but the belief that one race is su- both free and responsible.
Ronald ProStt
perior to another. Should not the Kernel
also condemn such actions as "idiotic
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By BOB BROWN

pages of details, notes, irrelevancies, and
EDITOR'S NOTE: The opinion
This
trivialities. These are the
in the column titled Middle
week's column is dedicated to them.
ncces-- ,
Cynic View and Scott Free do not
run the world This
The
sarily represent the opinions of the edi-- ; decade's national leaders attest to this
tors but rather represent the opinions of
fact. Former president Kennedy had trouthe authors.
ble making his Cs; Lyndon Johnson was
The Supremes have gone, fraternity even less academically oriented. President
rush is over, there are no formats or Nixon was president of his student body,
blow-ou- t
weekends in sight, and spring but he was no Phi Beta Kappa. After
vacation seems a long way off. The UK hearing the speeches of a few senators
campus has once again settled down to and congressmen it is not hard to guess
the drudgery of classes, instructors, home- how they ranked in their classes. As a
work, cramming, exams and grades. In matter of fact; it seems those who do not
aura are handicapped.
view of all this it is no wonder a large have the
portion of the campus population feels Sen. Fulbright, for instance, is often
criticized for his academic approach to
out of it.
These are the students who learn, or wodd problems. Sen. McCarthy is ocas is more often the case, are taught casionally requested to return to his idealenough to pas the course and get a istic wodd of books and leave
Cen.
to the more practical
mediocic grade. They haven't the incentive, the time or the ability to satiate MacArthur was an infamous dullard Even
their already mesmerized minds with though he was graduated from West Point

bigotry?" Irresponsible actions on both
sides will not lead to the peace that Dr.
King strove for.
David Reeves
A or S Senior

,

mASS

at the top of his class he could never
quite grasp the simple fact that he was
not the Commander-in-Chief.

The world's acknowledged geniuses
frequently had as much trouble with
academia as we do. Einstein found school
to be too much. His boredom was shared
by many, perhaps most, of the world's
great scientific minds. Their academic
downfall may be analogous to our own
struggle against boredom.
The
provide the foundation for America's stability and also furnish the revolutionaries that shake the
foundation. When you see an ofBceman
or a protesting student you can safely
generalize him to be academically C.
The biographies of military leaders must
inevitably classify them as mediocre students, just as all great athletes are instudents.
variably
There is definitely a stratification of
American society, but, the
find.
C-pl-

themselves in the top strata. They hold
the powerful offices, operate the huge
businesses, concern themselves with their
less fortunate brothers, mediate international disputes, push their individual
rights to the hilt, exercise authority and
question it, and, in short, keep the world
from stalemating.
are
The strata below the
It is their
the
occupied by
to prevent
purpose to teach
them from going too far too fast and to
mess their own minds with thousands of
facts to be used in bridge games and
mixed with adult soft drinks at intellectual parties.
The lower strata, of course, arc reserved for the drop-out- s
and flunk-outIt is their duty to drive taxis and breed
reactionaries.
So be not dismayed oh ye
of little faith for the world is yours, if
. you want it.
s.

* it.

THE KENTUCKY KERNEL, Monday, Jan.

1969- -5

27,

Peace Talk Table -For -Four Approved .

PAHIS (AP)-T- he
search for
a Vietnam peace through face to
face diplomacy has entered its
fourth and probably toughest
stage.
Some Americans are convinced, however, that in the long
run and it can take a painfully
long time the North Vietnamese
want a deal to end the fighting.
Gloomy predictions are being
made that the talks once again
will fall into a pattern of stub-boholdout when the Americans, South Vietnamese, North
Vietnamese and National Liberation Front have their second
session Thursday on
fundamental issues impeding a
settlement.
The Americans and South
Vietnamese delegates spent much
of Sunday as they expect to
spend the rest of their time until
Thursday in working meetings
to prepare for the next confrontation with the NLF and Hanoi
delegations around the huge
round table at the international
conference center.
Proposals, Rejections
The first session, a meeting
of six and a half hours Saturday,
brought specific proposals from
U.S. Ambassador Henry Cabot
Lodge and prompt rejection of
them from the other side. This
led experienced diplomats to predict that the talks once again
will fall into a pattern of stubborn holdout.
That can mean months of
seemingly fruitless repetition of
apparently nonnegotiable positions. But the Americans are plac
m

full-sca- le

:

ing some hope in contacts outside the formal atmosphere of the
meeting room: Secret sessions at
which secret bargains may be
struck.
The machinery for bringing
about such meetings, through
regular liaison among the delegations, already exists. These sessions would go a step beyond
the "coffee break" conversations
which Lodge's predecessor. Ambassador W. Averell Harriman,
carried on with the North Vietnamese during the preliminary
talks.
There have been three other
stages in the development of the
talks, and in each, both sides
have given something. Since the
prevalent belief here is that Hanoi, at least, came to Paris to
talk about an end to the war, it
eventually will give something
more for which it would expect
the Americans also to surrender
something.

The first stage cam eat the end
of March, when President Johnson ordered a partial halt in the
bombing of North Vietnam.
Hanoi chose to present this as a
forced concession, but it opened
y
the way to agreement on
preliminary talks between Hanoi
and Washington in Paris. In
Hanoi's view, it had held out
and had gotten something.

The second stage began May
with the opening of the American-Vietnamese talks.
North
Once again Hanoi adopted the
hold-ostrategy. It asserted that
what it called "the official conversations" had only one purpose: To determine when and how
the Americans would halt the
bombing completely.

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two-side-

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"meeting."

ut

four-side- d

"conference might support the
NLF's claim to independent
status. A"meeting" would be less
formal, not suggesting sovereign
parties to conference.
Dropped Demand
After two more months of
holdout, the third stage ended.
The Americans dropped their demand for a demarcation mark

Wins Again
So Hanoi, repeating this position over and over, held out another six months. Once again it

the meeting table to indicate two sides. Hanoi gave
something, too. It would sit down
at the table with the understanding that the Americans and South
Vietnamese continued to regard
the meeting as
More
than that, Hanoi agreed to sweep
aside procedural wrangling so the
sessions could get to matters of
substance.
While Hanoi may have important internal reasons for seeking
relief from three decades of var
in one form or another, it a'so
may consider it has good caise
to hold out for another long pe
on

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"Don't write off the stickir j
'
power of the North Vietnamese,
said one experienced American
source. He judged that Hanoi
has plenty of diplomatic fight
left and plenty of capacity to sit
and wait for a deal it considers
will serve the interests of its
side.

And A Fifth Threatens To Join
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Here are some of the signs of
change noted by China watch-

Belief is
LONDON (AP)
growing among diplomatic experts on Red China that Mao
g
may be getting ready
to stake a claim for a seat at any
final peace parley on Vietnam.
The experts
recent
cite
changes in Peking's attitude on
issues, especially in the foreig