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LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY 40506-0032

UNIVERSITY SENATE COUNCIL 1 February 1988
10 ADMINISTRATION BUILDING

Members, University Senate

The University Senate will meet in regular session on Monday,

February' 8, 1988, at 5:00 p.m. in. ROOM 115 of the Nursing Building
(CON/HSLC).

AGENDA:
Announcements.
Resolutions.

Update on the UK Budget situation: the President's Office.

ACTION ITEMS:

a. Honorary Degrees —- Dr. William Markesberry, Chairman,
Honorary Degrees Committee.

Proposed addition of the Cluster Concept to University

Studies Program. (Circulated under date of 27 January
1988.)

Randall Dahl
Secretary

Note: If you are unable to attend this meeting, please contact Ms.
Martha Sutton (7-7155) in advance. Thank you.

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AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY UNIVERSITY

 

 MINUTES OF THE UNIVERSITY SENATE, FEBRUARY 8, I988

The University Senate met in regular session at 3:00 p.m., Monday,
February 8, l988, in Room ll5 of the College of Nursing/Health Sciences
Building.

William E. Lyons, Chairman of the Senate Council, presided.

Members absent were: David Allen, John J. Allen, David Allgood*, Roger
B. Anderson, Richard Angelo*, Michael A. Baer, Lisa Barclay*, Charles E.
Barnhart, Susan Bean, Raymond F. Betts, David Bingham*, Glenn C. Blomquist*,
Tex Lee Boggs, Jeffery A. Born, Peter P. Bosomworth, Ray M. Bowen, Glen
Buckner, Ben Carr, Michael Cibull, Harry Clarke, Donald Coleman, C. J.‘
Cremers*, M. Ward Crowe, Frederick Danner, Leo S. Demski, Marcus Dillon*,
Richard C. Domek, Jr., Nancy S. Dye, Charles Ellinger, James Freeman*, Daniel
L. Fulks, Richard W. Furst, Fletcher Gabbard*, Jeff Goodyear, Ann Griesser,
John R. Groves*, Freddie Hermann, Ronald Hoover, Raymond R. Hornback, Alfred
S. L. Hu, Mehran Jahed, John J. Just, Jim Koegel, James M. Kuder, John Kuegel,
Robert G. Lawson, Gerald Lemons, William C. Lubawy, Bruce A. Lucas, Paul
Mandelstam*, Geraldine Maschio*, Peggy Meszaros*, Robert Murphy, Michael T.
Nietzel, Rosanne Palermo, Philip C. Palmgreen*, Alan Perreiah, Antoinette P.
Powell, Deborah E. Powell*, Madhira (Mike) D. Ram, John A. Rea, Mary Tripp
Reed*, G. Kendell Rice, Jo Ann Rogers, John M. Rogers, Edgar L. Sagan*, Donald
E. Sands*, Karyll N. Shaw, Stephen Stigers, Andrea Suffill, Michael G.
Tearney*, Scott Hard, Cyndi Weaver, James H. Hells, Charles T. Hethington*,
Carolyn A. Nilliams*, Gene Williams, Jason Williams, Angene Hilson*, H. David
Wilson*, N. Douglas Wilson, Peter Ninograd*, Judy Niza and Constance L. Hood*.

The Chair made the following remarks and announcements:

"Let me remind everyone that the March Senate Meeting has
been moved to March 7. The normal course of events would have
us have a meeting on the first day of Spring break. We are
moving it to March 7 in Room ll5 of the College of Nursing/
Health Sciences Building at 3:00 p.m. At this point it would
appear that the major action item for that particular meeting
will be the revised rules regarding cheating and plagiarism that
were sent back to committee several months ago.

The second announcement I have is that the Student
Government Association has forwarded its resolution urging the
University to cancel classes on Martin Luther King's birthday.

I have forwarded that request to the Calendar Committee which is
in the midst of discussing the other request from the Student
Government Association, namely the insertion of two study days
in the calendar for each semester. The committee is therefore
wrestling with a proposal to add a total of five days to the
academic year.

The third announcement is that the Senate Council will be
recommending to the Senate the adoption of a package of courses
developed by Lou Swift's committee for insertion into the new
University Studies Program. This will be done by transmittal as

*Absence explained.

 

 is usually the case for handling new courses. However, you
should be aware of two things. First, there is a thirty (30)
rather than a ten-day circulation rule in effect for approving
courses to be included in the University Studies Program.
Second, it must be kept in mind that there will be other courses
recommended for inclusion in the University Studies Program over
the next several menths and perhaps into the next academic

year. This will be a continuing process and the basic starter
package that you will be receiving ought to be judged in that
context. The transmittal will be sent out after today's Senate
meeting since our action on the "cluster concept”, one of our
action items on the agenda, will impact what is to be
transmitted to you.

The Senate Council had a very interesting breakfast this
morning with the local legislative delegation. Guess what we
were discussing? President Roselle was there, and we also asked
three academic deans who would represent a wide range of
interest on the campus. We had Dean Baer from Arts and
Sciences, representing the largest college on campus. He had
Dean Royster from the Graduate School and Dean Carolyn Williams
from Nursing. These four individuals, the president and three
deans, gave what everyone thought was a brilliant performance.
What we are trying to do is give these legislators some spe—
cific albeit antidotal information and examples of both short
and long-term impacts the executive budget currently before the
legislature will have down at the level of colleges and depart-
ments. Very often these people talk about that at a very high
level of budgetary concern and what we tried to get to them were
the nitty—gritty problems that you and I and everyone else faces
on campus. He found out that they like this kind of informa-
tion. They have not heard much from their higher education
community. Indeed there was at least one House member who has a
lot of faculty members as constituents. In fact, I suspect many
of you live in Bill Lear's district. At any rate, he said he
had received only two letters to date about concerns over higher
education. He has—received eleven letters opposing the lottery
which suggests that some of us ought to do some thinking about
getting some materials to these legislators. In order to get
more of the kind of antidotal illustrative kinds of materials
that they heard this morning to them, we have invited the deans,
who were at the meeting this morning, to prepare a sort of
written version of what they have done. We are inviting
everyone else on campus to do the same. Indeed, in order to
encourage that, we have created something with the help of Paul
Eakin. What we have done is created an Infoline that any of you
can access on any of the computer systems that you have avail-
able. Nhat this will do, and Paul will tell you how to do it,
is allow you to send whatever information you have concerning
the impact of the budget to Infoline and it will be collected
and put into a nice format. We will try to edit it and prepare
it for submission to some of the legislators. Again, they like
that kind of antidotal illustrative information. The second
thing we learned was that they like to hear from people. They
need to know that people are concerned, that peop e are not only

 

 willing to rally in Franfort on February l6 and the related
activities that go with that, but also write letters. I
attended a meeting this morning at the Radisson with the
Kentucky Advocates where they were outlining what was going to
happen on February l6. I know faculty members sometime think
these things are "hokey" but try to keep in mind what is being
done here is to stage a media event to call attention to the
very severe problems facing higher education.

I want to thank those of you who sent in cards. Some of
you sent them over to the Senate Council office. Let me tell
you, the Kentucky Advocates have received over 20,000 of those
cards. If you haven't sent yours in, please do so before March
l, the sooner the better. A computer firm in London, Kentucky,
has volunteered to punch all this into a data base and a compu-
terized list will be developed so that each legislator will
receive a message about those cards from constituents in his or
her district. By April 1, each person who sent in a card will
get a mailing asking us to call the 800 number in Frankfort to
remind legislators of our concern. Then, of course, there is
the Rally which is going to be held on February l6. The Rally
day begins at ll:30 in the morning with a press conference
sponsored by the Council on Higher Education and the Kentucky
Advocates. At l:30 in the afternoon they are asking the
students for higher education to be in the march. They are
asking all faculty and interested persons to also attend the
march and they even have arrangements for Donovan scholars. At
3:30 that afternoon there will be a warmup for the Rally in the
Civic Center, a half hour of music and bands and at 4:00 p.m.
they will begin the student showcase which will feature musical
presentations from student organizations from all the univer—
sities throughout the state. At 5:30 p.m. they have invited
four speakers to give the message on behalf of higher educa—
tion. First person to speak will be Stan Sharon, I believe it
is, of Louisville who will be speaking as an alumni and a parent
who has sent children to university systems in the Common—
wealth. The second person to speak will be representing the
faculty. You will be interested to know that the person chosen
for this task is our own Beverly Sypher from the Department of
Communications. Finally, there will be a student from Murray
University and I have heard her speak. She does an absolutely
fantastic job. I urge all of you to get out to this event and
urge your colleagues to do so as well. I know that all of us
would like to believe that the virtues of higher education are
self evident and irrefutable to everyone, but that simply is not
the case. We need to get our message across. As Yogi Berra
used to say, "It ain't over 'til it's over." The legislators
need to know of our concerns and that we will remember their
efforts to help higher education. I urge all of you to do that
and if you have any questions about that Rally, we will try to
answer them.

Chairman Lyons recognized Professor Paul Eakin (Mathematics) and asked
him to tell the senators how to get on infoline. Professor Eakin was
impressed with the legislator's comment that they have had plenty of
statistical information. Senator Moloney said they need more illustrative

 

 type of infonnation. What has been done is set up a place to collect the
information easily so that it can be organized and then sent to the Senate
Council office. He said that every computer on campus now has an account
called "infoline". No matter where someone is if they will mail information
to infoline, it will ultimately end up on the ninth floor of Patterson Office
Tower where it will be formatted and organized into areas of concern. The
Senate Council office will edit the material, get it back to Professor Eakin
who will see that it is formatted properly and then it can be immediately
circulated to interested people. He said this would be an on—going activity
for a while. This would also include students. He said it would be useful if
everyone would include a phone number so that verification can be made or
additional collaboration.

Chairman Lyons asked the senators to spread that information around
campus. He said if everyone would tell their colleges, the infoline would be
in business.

Professor James Applegate (Communications) noted that he was surprised
from the meeting how optimistic and how much hope the representatives had to
do something about the Governor's budget. He felt there was a lot of selling
to do. He said he had just talked with someone from off campus who said the
salaries for professors were terrible, but thought the assistant professors
and associate professors were getting paid well considering they were in
training. He said that was the type of misconception that the University had
to change.

Professor Mary Sue Coleman (Biochemistry) shared with the senators that
President Roselle would be on the Milton Metz Show (a call—in program) on HHAS
in Louisville from 9:00 p.m. to l2:00 p.m. with Don Swain and the president of
Bellannine College. She said that everyone was invited to call and express
their opinion. She asked everyone to call and have the switch board jammed.
The numbers are (502) 57l—8484. The other line is l—800—444—8484. She urged
the senators to listen even if they did not call. She added that letters were
critical and told the senators to write by hand because it was better than
typing them and not to put the letters on University stationery but to use
their own paper and stamp. She said that the University faculty is not
getting the message there and the legislators were not hearing.

Chairman Lyons said that the prize to be drawn at the Rally will be two
tickets to the final four. He said to look for the UK sign where there would
be a place reserved for the University, and he hoped everyone that could would
go. President Roselle announced that an additional prize to be drawn at the
Rally was a tour of the great universities of England and Scotland.

Professor Jesse Heil (Physics and Astronomy) asked for directions. The
Chair said it would be in the Civic Center which holds almost 6,000 people.
Professor Hans Gesund (Engineering) asked about getting a map printed in the
Kernel. The Chairman said he would do what he could but to follow the signs
to the Civic Center.

The first order of business was the consideration of the honorary degree
candidates. The Chair recognized Dr. William Marksberry who chairs the
honorary degrees committee who presented the candidates. The Chair reminded
the Senators that until the candidates were approved by the Board of Trustees
Athe information was to be regarded as confidential. Professor Marksberry
said that the graduate faculty has reviewed and approved the individuals he

 

 presented. Following Dr. Marksberry's presentation, Professor Applegate moved
to accept the five candidates for recommendation to the President. Professor
Jewell seconded the motion which unanimously passed.

Chairman Lyons said this was an opportune time to think about the conse—
quences of the budget along with the discussion about the need to write
letters and to get involved in the Rally. President Roselle and Mr. Ed Carter
were invited to the meeting to give a presentation on budget concerns and some
of the things that may be coming up in the near future on the legislative
agenda and the whole budgetary process as it begins to unfold in Frankfort.

The Chair recognized President Roselle who made the following remarks:

"Thank you Bill. What I will say to you today has two
thoughts to it. One is that we want to keep from managing this
particular budget and we will thus discuss what is necessary or
helpful to avoid that outcome. The other problem is to decide
how we will manage such a budget should it be the result of the
legislative session that is now ongoing. I want also to under-
line our obligation to the people of the Commonwealth of
Kentucky to properly manage whatever resources are made
available to the University. We will manage a good budget the
same as we would a not so good budget; namely, with the
University's goals in mind.

Ed Carter is here to take you through the Executive budget
and to begin your thinking about how we might manage our affairs
if we get such a budget. My reason for being here is to tell
you that I am not ready to agree that the Executive budget will
be the University of Kentucky's budget. Some people call that
being a ”cry baby," but I continue to think that the University
should press its case.

February l6 is certainly a key date. If the Advocates for
Higher Education were to rally in Frankfort, and it was not a
newsworthy event, that would be a bad thing. I hope that you
will do your best to be there for the afternoon, and I hope that
you will encourage others to be there also. It is clearly to
our advantage to have that be a well attended event.

The next key date is February 24. That is the date candi—
dates must file for office. There is a belief that legislators
might be less willing to take positions before February 24. The
feeling is that on February 25 it may be more likely that some
of the legislators will be willing to engage in more conversa—
tion about what might be possible.

I thank you for your support and I encourage you to con-
sider your position on the budget and to make your position
known to members of the Legislature. Please encourage your
friends to do the same."

Professor Neil wanted to know if anything was being done to get Community
Colleges around the state to write to their legislators. President Roselle's
answer was in the affirmative and said also the extension people would be

 

 called upon and that there is also a liaison group. Professor Coleman said
there was one thing that was done when the Dental School was in terrible
trouble was to go to Alumni Associations, all in one night and blanket the
state. She said the alumni responded and wondered if President Roselle had any
plans of contacting the alumni. President Roselle said this had been dis—
cussed as something to do in March. He said the University would like for
that to be happening at a time when there was a proposal for the people to be
for as opposed to just going out and asking them to be unhappy along with us.
He felt that was a difficult position in which to put people. Professor Neil
said that one letter could be written now to say we need more money for
education and another letter when there is a proposal. Professor Roselle
urged the senators to write letters and not to feel those letters had to be
restricted to the Fayette County delegation but tell others what the situation
is. He said that Ed Carter would give the senators an idea how bad the
situation is. President Roselle told the legislators that in his opinion, and
he has been a faculty member most of his adult life, one can generally
underpay and give not very good working conditions to faculty members, but one
thing that is devastating is to make them feel unappreciated. He said the
budget really does that.

President Roselle asked the senators to help with the antidotal infor—
mation also. He said he had testified before the House Education Committee
which was a very friendly group. The next day the Governor's Budget Director
indicated that he agreed with what the presidents had said. He said the
infoline that Professor Eakin talked about would be very helpful. He asked
that everyone work together on the project and on beyond the project. He
feels it is important to work together whether one takes a short—term or
long—term view. He said it was important to lay the groundwork for future
bienniums. President Roselle thanked the senators and departed.

The Chairman announced that Mr. Ed Carter (Vice President for Administra—
tion) was going to give the Senate some numbers and said that some of the
information might be something the senators might want to write down. He
added that some of the things might be something to write letters about.

Mr. Carter's remarks and charts follow:

"Thank you Bill. I appreciate the opportunity again to
come before this group. One of these days I hope the message is
better than it has been in the last little bit. Last time we
talked about the priorities of our planning process, Council
recommendation, the state budget outlook which is pretty
accurate, I think. Today I want to update the state budget
outlook a little more and give you a little information. I am
not going to burden you with a lot of details. One of the rea—
sons is that it is a very difficult budget to get details out
of, as a matter of fact. I want to talk a little about how the
budget impacts the University of Kentucky and bring you up—to-
date on what is going on in terms of our ability to deal with
that budget if it does pass. The President is absolutely
correct that we literally are working both sides of the street
in trying to avoid having to implement this budget but if, in
fact, we do we can‘t wait until April l or April l5 to begin
talking about it. To refresh your memory and the observations
we made in December the following chart is a display of the two

 

 hundred miTTion doTTar ($200,000,000) probTem per year. The
revenue estimates are probabTy now the most significant number.
The expenditure side is what is being proposed by the
TegisTative staff rather than the gubertoriaT staff.

Mr. Carter presented the foTiowing charts:

GENERAL FUND
PROPOSED BUDGET
1988—90

1988—89 1989-90

Originai Projected Revenue $3,24T.6 $3,43T.5

Projected Revenue (Proposed Budget) 3,262.9 3,442.4

AdditionaT $21.3 miiiion in 1988-89 is a resuit of (1) a reestimation or
reexamination of the individuaT component taxes in January and (2) a
projection by the Revenue Cabinet that an additionaT $30,000,000 in
revenue wiTi resuTt in FY 1989 from the acceierated coTTection from
larger taxpayers of saTes tax payments and individual withhoiding tax

payments.

Additionai $10.9 miiiion in 1989—90 is a resuTt of (T) a reestimation or
reexamination of the individuai component taxes in January and (2) the
projection of an additionai $10 miTTion revenue from the impiementation

of a more comprehensive tax compiiance programs.

 

 Assumes FoIIowing Actions -—

Suspends the overmatch of the Teacher's Retirement System and
discontinues the overmatch of the Kentucky Empioyee's Retirement
System redirecting an approximate $40 miIIion each year of the

biennium.

In 1988-89 transfers $19.5 miIIion from the Kentucky Law Enforcement
Foundation Program and the Professionai Firefighters Foundation Fund

to the Genera] Fund.

In 1989—90 transfers $18.9 miIIion from the Division of Water Patroi,
the Department of Fish and WiIdiife Resources, the Kentucky Law
Enforcement Foundation, the Fire and Tornado Insurance Fund, the
Department of Insurance, the Department of FinanciaI Institutions,

the ProfessionaI Firefighters Foundation Fund, and the Commerce

Cabinet to the GeneraI Fund.

Temporariiy redirects $35 miIIion a year from the Transportation
Cabinet and the Road Fund to the Department of State PoIice for its

enforcement of state traffic and motor VehicIe Iaws.

 

 Governor's Proposed Budget
1988—89

University of Kentucky

Lexington Community
Campus/Medica1 Co11ege
Center System

 

1987—88 State Appropriation $184,638,000 $ 41,964,300

 

1988—89 Proposed Increase

 

Debt Service — Life 136,900
Safety Projects

Japanese Saturday Schoo1 250,600

Debt Service Adjustment , 496,700 8,000

Tota1 $185,522,200 $ 41,972,300

Tota1

$226,602,300

136,900

504,700

$227,494,500

—— This budget is essentia11y a straight 1ine budget for the University of
Kentucky. ,

 

 Governor's Proposed Budget

1989—90
University of Kentucky

Lexington
Campus/Medica1
Center

Community
Co11ege
System

 

1988—89 Appropriation $185,522,200

 

1989—90 Proposed Increases

 

Desegregation Funds 32,800
Formu1a Increase 8,519,300

Debt Service — Ash1and Community
Co11ege Academic
Learning Resource
Center

Debt Service — Business

and Economics

Addition/Renovation

and Life Safety

Projects 1,151,500
Debt Service — Adjustment 26,200

Japanese Saturday Schoo1 11,000

$195,263,000

$41,972,300

4,500

2,832,000

540,200

$45,365,100

Tota1

$227,494,500

37,300
11,351,300

1,151,500
43,300
11,000

$240,629,100

—— This budget essentia11y provides for a 5% increase to the University.

 

 UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
BUDGET PLANNING ANALYSIS
1988-90

UK OPERATING BUDGET—GOV'S RECOMMENDATION 1988-89 1989—90

SOURCES:
(millions) (millions)
Additional Student Fee Income $l.6 $l.l
Change in State Appropriation 0 0
Formula Main Campus .5l9
Formula Community Colleges .832
Debt Service—Life Safety Proj . .l36
Japanese School . .Oll
Deseg Funding Increase
Debt Payments Ashland Building
Debt Payments B & E Bldg
Debt Payments Adjustment

SOURCES: STATE & FEES
USES:

Fixed Costs:

Fringe Benefits—Main Campus
Social Security
Liability Insurance
Life Insurance
Retirement Systems
Workers Comp
Health Insurance

Fringe Benefits-CCS

Social Security
Retirement Systems
Health Insurance

Utilities-Main Campus rate increases

Utilities—CCS rate increases

Debt Payments Adjustment

M & 0 New Bldgs—Main Campus

M & 0 New Bldgs-CCS

Japanese Saturday School

Agr. Employees Benefit Program
Supercomputer Operations

Graduate Stipends

Debt Service—Life—Safety Projects
Debt Service-Ashland Building
Debt Service—B & E Building
Faculty Salary Incr. @ 2%
Staff Salary Incr. @ 2%
Operating Expenses @ 3%

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TOTAL--USES

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BALANCE - SOURCES MINUS USES

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 UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
BUDGET PLANNING ANALYSIS
1988—90

What are the options available to us?

We can choose to not meet high priority needs, e.g. salaries

We can look for additional revenue sources which are not currently available

On the expenditure side, we can reallocate funds to deal with priority needs

in that the University is basically a people—enterprise those
reallocations would probably have to come from position freezes or the
elimination of positions

We could pursue some combination of the above

All options are currently under consideration.

Mr. Carter's final remarks:

One of the options the University has is to choose not to
meet the high priority needs. In other words, forego salary
increases which would save approximately $2,000,000 a year for
each percent of increases for faculty and staff. If the
University did not do a two percent increase in the first year
the $9,000,000 deficit goes down by $4,000,000. The University
could look for additional revenue sources, which are not
currently available. We can either increase prices for our
services, we can put new revenue measures into place that are
not now there. The Governor's suggestion is the third option on
the expenditure side and that is to reallocate funds to deal
with our priority needs presuming there are not vast amounts of
resources in this institution that are applied to something. It
means to stop spending for one thing and apply it to something
else. In that the University is basically a people enterprise
reallocations would almost have to mean cutting back on the
personnel side of the budget. The Chancellors are carefully
reviewing all options and having discussions with deans and
other groups. We will work on some form of solution between now
and April sometime.

The President did not mention one other date. He is
testifying before the Senate A & R Committee this Wednesday.

 

 Mr. Carter said that he would be happy to respond to any questions.
Professor Malcolm Jewell (Political Science) said that the press mentioned
several times that the Governor mentioned that the universities got a twenty
percent increase at the beginning of the biennium and then they casually
mentioned that so much money would have to be given back. He said that he had
also heard that twenty percent figure when used for bond issues, equipment and
other things, and wanted to know if it would be possible to come up with a
figure, leaving aside the bond issue, what the actual increase for the
universities in general was after the revenue shortfall had been sub—
tracted. Mr. Carter thought that was a good question. He said that he and
Joan McCauley had left two Herald-Leader reporters in his office working on
that very question. He felt they would do a story sometime this week dealing
with that in all higher education. Professor Eakin wanted to know what per-
centage of the University's expenditures was represented in faculty salaries.
Mr. Carter said if one looked at all sources of funds from the hospital funds,
grants, auxilaries, the normal operation would be about 60 percent. He said
it would be substantially higher than that in the pure academic programs.

Professor Applegate wanted_to know if the Survey Research Center in the
Kentucky poll could be used to provide some sort of scientifically sound
barometer of people's attitudes toward conforming to the federal tax codes,
tax increase when geared with other options which the state is facing.
Professor James Hougland (Sociology) said a poll was scheduled for April but
they do have the capability of doing particular polls for particular pur—
poses. He said an overnight poll could be done on short notice. He felt the
University had to be careful because 90 percent of the time there is the
advantage of being perceived as a completely unbiased source. However, on
this particular issue the University could be accused of being biased.
Professor Neil wanted to know about having the University's polling service
phrase the questions in a good manner and some off-campus outfit run the
poll. Mr. Carter said again the problem is money and there is a feeling that
higher education folks are an island to themselves. He has had several
legislators say that people back home are perfectly happy with the Governor's
budget. The problem is that it will be six months past July l to January l989
before people really realize what is going on.

Professor Hans Gesund (Engineering) wanted to know why the University
does not cut down on some of the high visibility things such as the number of
coaches on the basketball and football teams. He said every front page in the
state would print that information. Mr. Carter said that unfortunately that
would not do much for $9,000,000. Professor Gesund said the important thing
is for the people of the state to realize that when the University is in
trouble, the state is in trouble. The thing the people know most about the
University is the basketball and football teams. He said that would stir up a
hornet's nest.

Professor Eakin said that he had heard the Governor's budget does not
actually appropriate the two percent. Mr. Carter said there are two or three
versions of that. There is the Governor's speech, the departmental managers
interpretation of that, and there is not much question that two percent in
several agencies in state government came out of either some big allocations

 

 such as teacher retirement, fish and wildlife, etc., or came out of the
reallocation within agencies or departmental budgets, because there are
several state agencies that actually have less money in 1990 than they do in
l987—88. Mr. Carter said if one looked at the Governor's priorities that
higher education is sitting with zero but there are some that actually have
reductions.

Professor Martin McMahon (Law) wanted to know if the University is
considering things like eliminating programs, and if it would be fair to
announce what the targets are so that people can move on when opportunities
present themselves before they get the ”ax" unexpectantly. Mr. Carter said
at the appropriate time that would have to be the case. He felt the problem
with that in terms of the political environment is announcing a solution
before there is some finality of the problem. Professor McMahon's point was
that the University is dealing with human lives so the people should have
notice that their jobs are those that are potentially on the ”chopping block”
well in advance so they can go to other universities that are making them
offers when they think there is something at UK. It would be quite a shock to
people when they have turned down offers this year and find out they have been
"axed“ at the end of the fiscal year when their programs have been termi—
nated. Mr. Carter agreed. There were no further questions from the floor.

Chairman Lyons introduced Joan McCauley (Associate Vice President) who is
also working on many o