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INTERVIEW WITH MRS. HAMMOND DUCANanPA LIBRARIAN~~LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY

"EVERYBODY’S FARM” HOUR-~~SATURDAY, JULY I5, I959.fl§350~9§0 A.M. EST.

HRS. DUGAN, JUST EXACTLY WHAT IS YOUR POSITION WITH THE

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WORKS PROGRESS~ADMIIIISTRATION LIBRARY IN LEXINGTON?

WHY, I HAVE THE OOB OF SUPERVISING ALL THE LIBRARY WORK THAT

IS DONE BY WPA :flRfiL FAYETTE COUNTY. WE HAVE A CENTRAL
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OFFICE IN LEXINGTON AND ABOUT A DOZEN BRANCHES THROUGHOUT

THE COUNTY.

AND WE SUPPOSE THAT WORK IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.....BUT WE'LL
COME TO THAT A LITTLE LATER. BUT FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO

KNOW HOW YOU HAPPENED TO GET INTO LIBRARY WORK. SURELY,
A PERSON WHO'S DONE AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE MUST SEE QUITE A
BIT IN SUCH WORK THAT MOST FOLKS MISS. HOW DID YOU HAP»

PEN TO CHOOSE THIS COUNTY WORK?

WELL, MR. MASON, MY WISH TO DO THIS TYPE OF LIBRARY WORK
IN THE SOUTH WAS CHIEFLY PROMPTED BY THE EXPERIENCE I HAD
WHEN I WORKED IN THE BIG NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEM
ONE SUMMER. I HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP IN A SOUTHERN COMMUN~
ITY, WHICH WAS ABOUT 98 PERCENT ENGLISH IN ITS ANCESTRAL
ROOTS. IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WERE RATHER CASUAL ABOUT
OUR READING. EVERYONE I KNEW HAD PLENTY OF BOOKS IN
THEIR HOMES~~~OR SO I THOUGHT. YOU MIGHT SAY THAT WE

WEREN'T VERY PUBLIC LIBRARY MINDED........BUT, WHEN I SAT

 

 AT THE CIRCULATION DESK IN THAT POVERTY~STRICKEN FOREIGN
SECTION OF NEW YORK CITY __ AND RECOGNIZED IN THE LONG
LINES OP~WAITINS CHILDREN THOSE WHO HAD-~DAY AFTER DAY~~
BROUGHT BACK BOOKS THEY HAD JUST TAKEN OUT THE DAY BEFORE-n
WHICH MEANT THEY HAD READ THEM IN TWENTY—POUR HOURS~~I BE“
BAN TO WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MY HOME COMMUNITY AS COM-
PARED TO THE EAGER, KNOWLEDGE-HUNGRY FOREIGN COMMUNITY IN
WHICH | WAS THEN WORKING......NO MATTER HOW I LOOKED AT

IT, I COULD ONLY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT MY HOME COM-
MUNITY...AND OTHERS LIKE IT...NEEDED MORE PUBLIC LIBRARY
SERVICE. You SEE, No MATTER HOW MANY BOOKS THE AVERAGE
HOME MAY HAVE, THAT HOME CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE THE WIDE
VARIETY AND SKILLED SELECTION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR EVERY—

ONE IN ALMOST EVERY PUBLIC LIBRARY.

YES, MRS. DUGAN, WE SEE WHAT YOU MEAN.....YOU'VE BEEN ABLE
TO SEE THE NEED OF A LIBRARY SYSTEM FOR SOUTHERN RURAL
DISTRICTs-«SO YOU'VE GONE OUT AND HELPED DEVELOP A WORK—

9‘
.

ABLE SYSTEM.....IS THAT IT

YES, I GUESS YOU CAN PUT IT THAT WAY.

NOW, MRS. DUGAN, LET'S GET DOWN To LIBRARY CASES IN YOUR

OWN COMMUNITY......HOW LONG HAS THE CITY OF LEXINGTON,

KENTUCKY, HAD A PUBLIC LIBRARY?

OH, FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.....LEXINGTON HAS THE OLDEST Es-

TABLISHED PUBLIC LIBRARY IN THE ENTIRE OHIO RIVER VALLEY.

 

 DUGAN:

DUGAN:

ANN:

WHEN WAS THE LIBRARY FIRST ESTABLISHED?

IN I796. THE PRESENT BUILDING LOOKS LIKE A GREEK

PLE""“OH, YES, QUITE AN IMPOSINenLOOKINB BUILDING.

NO DOUBT ABOUT, MOST LIBRARIES ARE.....BUT, DO YOU SUPPOSE
THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING HAS HAD ANYTHING TO DO
WITH THE AMOUNT OF BOOKS WHICH HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN

IT BY PEOPLE?

IN A GREAT MANY CASES~~YES. I KNOW OF SEVERAL INSTANOES
WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UUST A LITTLE BIT UNEASY ABOUT THE
IDEA OF GOING INTO SUCH A BUILDING AND HAVE TURNED AWAY

WITHOUT GETTING BOOKS.
WELL, THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN NOW, DOES IT?

No, NOT OFTEN NOW, AND THE PEOPLE CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA

CO
OF HAVING BOOKS BROUGHT RIGHT INTO THE R4CTSO

WELL, MRS. DUGAN, JUST WHAT IS YOUR SYSTEM OF DISTRIBu-

TION? DO YOU RUN TRUCKS T:yROUGH THE COUNTRY—SIDE AND

DISTRIBUTE BOOKS FROM THEM AT THE FARMERS' DOORS, OR DO

YOU USE ANOTHER SYSTEM?

WE HAVE NO TRUCKS As YET. THE WAY WE OPERATEUéZIS LI-
W

BRARY IS TO TAKE BOOKS OUT INTO THE COUNTY, BUTwWE—DIS-

TRIBUTE THEM TO PEOPLE THROUGH OUR LIBRARY CENTERS.

JUST WHAT ARE THESE CENTERS, MRS. DUGAN?

 

 DUGAN:

DUGAN:

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NELL, MR. MASON, DO YOU MIND IF I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT
THE WPA LIBRARY SYSTEM — YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MAY

SOUND A LITTLE LIKE BRAGGING?

HO, MA'AM WE DON'T MIND IF YOU DO....FACT IS, WE’D LIKE

TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE PROUD OF.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE SO PROUD ABOUT WILL ALSO
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION CONCERNING OUR CENTERS~—AND WHAT WE

USE. YOU SEE, NBA LIBRARY PROCEDURE MUST NECESSARILY BE

A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE USUAL LIBRARY PROCEDURE. WE

MAY NOT HAVE BIG BUILDINGS AND TRUCKS, BUT WE DO HAVE A
SORT OF PIONEERING SPIRIT AND A WILLINGNESS To WORK WITH—
OUT THE USUAL LIBRARY TOOLS. WHY, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A
DESK: OUR CENTERS, FOR INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF BEING IN—
POSING BUILDINGS ARE USUALLY LOCATED IN COUNTRY CHURCHES,
SCHOOL~HOUSES, CRoss—ROADS STORES, AND EVEN IN FARM HOUSES.
AND, THOUGH WE MAY NOT HAVE ADEQUATE BOOK STOCKS WE MAKE

UP IN AVAILABILITY wHAT WE LACK IN COMPLETENESS. WPA
LIBRARY SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BROUGHT BOOKS TO

WELL OVER TWO MILLION PEOPLE WHO LIVE BEYOND THE RANGE OF

 

ORDINARY LIBRARY SERVICE. AND IN FAYETTE COUNTY WE ARE
TAKING BOOKS TO THE 22,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF
LEXINGTON. THEY MUST LIKE THE SERVICE, TOO, BECAUSE
THEY READ OVER A0,000 BOOKS AND MAGAZINES DURING THE

FIRST NINE MONTHS OF OUR LIBRARY‘S EXISTENCE.

MRS. DUGAN---WHAT TYPE OF BOOKS DO YOUR FOLKS DOWN THERE

 

 DUGAN:

DUGAN:

IN KENTUCKY READ? DO THEY READ FOR PLEASURE'**OR DO

THEY READ FOR PROFIT?

OH, THEY READ ALL KINDS OF BOOKS. I DON'T LIKE TO DRAW

A LINE BETWEEN BOOKS WHICH ARE READ FOR PLEASURE AND

BOOKS WHICH ARE READ FOR PROFIT. BECAUSE ANY GOOD BOOK
THAT IS READ FOR PLEASURE PROFITS THE READER AND ANY BOOK
WHICH REALLY PROFITS A READER GIVES HIM PLEASURE. AND,
I'M NOT AT ALL SURE ANY MORE UUST WHAT CONSTITUTES A GOOD
BOOK. . THOMAS HARDY, FOR INSTANOE, WAS A GREAT WRITER,
BUT ZANE GREY APPEALS TO SO MANY PEOPLE, AND KEEPS ALIVE-m
SO VIVIDLYm—THOSE ADMIRASLE HUMAN GUALITIES OF INITIATIVE,
ADVENTURE, INDIVIDUALITY AND STRENGTH THAT I FEEL NO HES~
ITATION WHATEVER IN OFFERING HIS BOOKS TO ANYONE. AFTER
ALL, A GOOD THRESHING HANDT"MCR A GOOD HAND WITH A SCHTHE
*-"IS THE RESULT OF LONG PRACTICE. AND I SUPPOSE READING

HABITS ARE ACQUIRED BY PRACTICE, T00.

MRS. DUGAN, YOU SPOKE OF THE WPA LIBRARY NOT HAVING ALL

THE FACILITIES THAT OTHER LIBRARIES HAVE...-.AND NOW,

THE THOUGHT HAS OCCURRED TO ME THAT YOU HAVEN'T TOLD US
WHERE YOU GET THE BOOKS YOU DISTRIBUTE.....WHERE DO THESE

BOOKS COME FROM?

WELL, FIRST, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE LEXINGTON PUB—

LIC LIBRARY WHICH ALLOWS US TO USE MANY OF THEIR BOOKS.

THEN, THE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION GAVE US PERMISSION TO

 

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DUGANZ

CIRCULATE THEIR BOOKS TOO. BUT STILL WE HAD A BOOK
SHORTAGE, AND JUST WHEI‘J WE WERE WONDERII‘IG WHAT TO DO
ABOUT IT, OTHER LIBRARIES BEGAN TO SEND US THEIR DUPLI"

GATES AND DISCARDS; ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE GIRL SCOUTSA
AND A GREAT MANV PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS SENT US GIFTS. SO,
WE HAVE HAD ABOUT TWENTYmTHREE HUNDRED BOOKS AND TWENTY—

THOUSAND MAGAZINES GIVEN TO US. AND THEN WPA ITSELF,

KNOWING THAT BOOKS ARE OUR! CHIEF TCOLS, HAS GIVEN US A

GENEROUS NUMBER OF NEW BOOKS. HOW, YOU SEE, WE ARE

REALLY ABLE TO KEEP FRESH SUPPLIES OF BOOKS IN ALL OUR

BOOK CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
DO YOU DISTRIBUTE THEM ONLY TO INDIVIDUALS?

OH NO, WE SERVE SEVERAL INSTITUTIONS, TOO. WE EVEN

HAVE A BRANCH LIBRARY IN THE KENTUCKY HOUSES OF REFORM
WHICH HAPPEN TO BE IN OUR COUNTY. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TOOK
OVER THE LIBRARY SERVICES AT THE REFORM SCHOOL WE FOUND
ONLY A STOREmROOM FILLED WITH CASTwOFF BOOKS OF ALL KINDS:
OLD SERMONS, GREEK LEXICONS, AND MISCELLANEOUS DEERIS.
AFTER LOOKING AT THAT COLLECTION WE KNEW WHY PEOPLE THOUGHT
THOSE UNFORTUNATE CHILDREN DIDN'T WANT TO READ. THERE

WAS PRACTICALLY NOTHING THERE THAT THEY~~OR ANYONE ELSE-"-

COULD READ......NOW WE BRING THEM BOOKS WHICH F—l—T THEIR

AGES, AND WHICH ARE REALLY INTERESTING AND LIVELY. AND
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE A LIBRARY

BETTER THAN THOSE REFORM SCHOOL CHILDREN HAVE.

 

 DUGAN:

DUGAN:

DUGANZ

WELL, MRS. DUGAN....YOU FOLKS DOWN THERE IN KENTUCKY HAVE
CERTAINLY DONE A FINE ODE OF ORGANIZING LIBRARY FACILITIES
FOR THE FOLKS WHO OTHERWISE-MIGHT HAVE TO GO WITHOUT GOOD
BOOKS TO READ AS OFTEN AS THEY WANT TO READ THEM.....BY
THE WAY”"HDO YOU CHARGE PEOPLE ANYTHING FOR THE SERVICE

YOU GIVE THEM?
THIS SERVICE IS ENTIRELY FREE.

You KNOW, MRS. DUGAN...I’VE BEEN SORT OF NEGLECTING MY
READING LATELYm~~ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN RADIO WORK.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANYWAY THAT I CAN CATCH UP ON MY READINGmm

WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING IT?

WHY, MR. MASON, I'M SURPRISED AT YOU: YOU'RE NOT DIF~
FERENT FROM A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE--~AND A LOT OF OTHER
PEOPLE FIND TIME TO READ AND KEEP ABREAST OF THINGS.

DO YOU MEAN THAT I CAN FIND THE TIME, TOO~~~EVEN WITH THE

OFF” \N'W‘k‘v
AMOUNTAI DO?

MAN I”

I MEAN EXACTLY THAT. AKEEP A GOOD BOOK NEAR YOU AND IF YOU

WILL SPEND UUST BEE £225 EACH DAY WITH A GOOD BOOK, YOU'LL
BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH READING YOU'LL GET DONE. IT'LL BE
JUST LIKE OPENING UP A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR YOURSELF.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE AND

GET INTO NEW AND STRANGE SURROUNDINGS. IT'LL BE JUST

LIKE LIVING THE LIFE OF THE CHARACTERS IN YOUR BOOK:

 

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WELL, THANK YOU MRS. DURAN! I'M GOING TO START To—

NIGHT TO READ ONE HOUR A DAY..£.AND MRS. DUGAN, WE WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF THE WORK YOU
ARE nonmemwmANO FOR YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE BENEFITS

FARM FOLKS CAN HAVE THROUGH A PROPERLY MANAGED LIBRARY.